The ‘electric cars aren’t green’ myth debunked

Electric cars green myth

It’s time to bust this thing wide open.

‘Electric cars aren’t green’ is a great bit of counter-intuitive headline bait, but it’s bad maths.  This is how the argument goes, again and again…

Electric cars have higher manufacturing emissions than normal cars.  Electric cars also use electricity that has its own footprint.  And put together these two factors are a ‘dirty little secret‘ that negate any climate benefit of electric cars!

No.  Let’s clear this thing up once and for all.

It’s all about the juice

One of the most irritating things about articles discussing electric car emissions is the way it’s always very black and white.  In one corner you have the ‘zero emissions’ brigade and in the other the ‘worse than combustion engine’ crew.

But as ever, real life comes in shades of grey.

The reality is that even after you account for the bigger manufacturing footprint of an electric car it is all about the fuel mix of the power you use, the ‘juice’ if you will.

Using coal powered electricity electric cars do nothing to cut emissions, using natural gas electricity they’re like a top hybrid and using low carbon power they result in less than half the total emissions of the best combustion vehicle, manufacturing included.

In our recent study ‘Shades of Green: Electric Cars’ Carbon Emissions Around the Globe‘ we calculated grid powered electric car emissions in twenty countries. But we actually had data for quite a few more countries we didn’t include.

So let’s break out the data and put this thing to rest.

Mapping electric car emissions

The following map compares the carbon footprint of electric driving using average grid electricity in 40 or so countries.  The actual carbon intensity of electricity you use may differ from the national average for a number of reasons, but it’s a great starting point.

The results are shown in terms of grams of equivalent carbon dioxide per vehicle kilometer (g CO2e/km).  Each estimate includes emissions from vehicle manufacturing, power station combustion, upstream fuel production and grid losses.

The specs are based on a full electric vehicle, similar to a Nissan Leaf, using the 2009 average fuel mix in each country.  For each country vehicle manufacturing emissions are assumed to be 70g CO2e/km, based on a number of studies detailed in the report.

EV emissions by countryClick image to expand

Of the 40 countries covered in this map emissions vary from 70g CO2e/km in hydro loving Paraguay, up to a 370g CO2e/km in heavy coal using India.  The US average is 202g CO2e/km, in China it’s 258g and in Canada 115g.

In Paraguay virtually all the emissions are from vehicle manufacturing, as the power is incredibly low carbon.  Whereas in India the breakdown is 70g for vehicle manufacturing, 200g from power plants, 30g for fuel production and a whopping 70g for grid losses.

The colors in the legend split the countries into five different groups based on carbon intensity.  As you can see, even after vehicle manufacturing is included the carbon intensity of driving an electric car varies 5 fold based on the juice.

For a bit of reference, the average American gasoline vehicle is up at about 300g CO2e/km, while a new hybrid might manage 180g CO2e/km after you include vehicle manufacturing, fuel combustion and fuel production.

Compared to combustion vehicles

Because grams per kilometer is such a funny metric it is nice to convert these results to something more familiar.  Working backwards from the data we can estimate what type of conventional vehicle (if any) would produce similar emissions.

For want of a better phrase lets call this the ‘Emissions equivalent petrol car’.

EV emissions equivalent

Click image to expand.

Now the figures are much easier to get a grip on.

In coal heavy India, China, Australia and South Africa electric cars using grid power are just like typical gasoline vehicles, in the 25-30 MPGUS range.  In the UK, Germany, Japan and Italy they are as good as the best petrol hybrids, in the 45-50 MPGUS range. But in low carbon supply places like France, Brazil, Switzerland and Norway they are in a different league, averaging well beyond 100 MPGUS for equivalent emissions.

It is important to remember that the electricity you get might not match your national average for any number of reasons.  The night time intensity might vary, you might have solar panels or live in a country like the US, where the grid is actually a bunch of separate grids.  For example in Colorado a grid powered electric car is equivalent to about 30 MPGUS, whereas in California it’s up around 70 MPGUS.

For all the comparisons in this map the vehicle manufacturing of a gasoline car is just 40g CO2e/km compared to 70g CO2e/km for the electric vehicle.  This is because we have accounted for both a greater manufacturing footprint and lower lifetime mileage in an electric car.

If you are interested in the detail check out the full report.  It includes a breakdown of all figures, sensitivities to manufacturing, vehicle performance and comparisons to diesel vehicles.

Electric cars are as green as their juice

Critics of electric cars love to talk about manufacturing emissions and putting horses before carts.  But they never seem to offer any better solutions.  If they were waxing lyrical about urban densification, electrified public transport and the joys of bicycles their critiques would ring true, but that’s not what you hear.

Electric cars are relatively new at a commercial scale and are dealing with issues of cost, range and charging speed.  Each of which will be helped by improving batteries.  Despite this they offer enormous hope for reducing carbon emissions, improving local air quality and limiting noise pollution.

Electric cars are far from perfect, and there are plenty of valid ways to critique them.  But let’s not pretend that a gasoline vehicle can compete with an electric car in terms of carbon emissions.  It’s just not a contest.

Give an electric car the right juice and it crushes combustion engines.


Download the report here: Shades of Green 

Author’s note: in case you are wondering, I don’t own an electric car. We have an efficient Skoda diesel which is mostly used at weekends with 4 people in it.  My preferred mode of transport is my old dutch bike, which in terms of gCO2e/km trashes all comers (foodprint included).

  • Peter

    You assume, that there is a problem with carbon/Co2 When in reality without Co2 we would be all dead (Co2 is not a pollutant!). Its essential for all plants to grow, not to mention that they do better, with more of it out there.During the last ice age we had 12 times the level we have today, and everything did better, it helped to protect us from cold and starvation.Which is why some scientists argue that the levels are actually too low today. Not to mention that we have gone through 7 ice ages, and will again. It has to do with orbits around the sun, and not anything that we have done.
    I wish all those greentards would acually worry about pollution for a change. Not some wacked out Idea like carbon credits. That winds up costing us all more $$ and lines the pockets Government agency’s.

  • Érico Galindo

    Future is Eletric Vehicles, but not battery based ones, instead, Fuel Cell based ones.
    120L of Hydrogen = 650km of range or 100kw of power for sustaining a house for a week and no high amounts of toxic residue for biohazardous dead li-ion battery cells.

    • Nick Chanas

      The issue is that it will require a lot of energy (and water) to produce hydrogen since the gas cannot be found its pure form in nature (at least not in sufficient quantities to justify an industry being built on it). That makes it a lot less sustainable and more expensive than EVs (that can have batteries made of non toxic materials) fuelled by ”Greener” energies.

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  • Chris

    The problem is the vehicles themselves. But the resources they use. Gas and electricity. Acid for the batteries coal for electricity and fossil fuels CO2 and all that junk. The processes needed to keep them going may do more harm. Lets say if most of the world began using electric cars now the grid is being drained and would need power. Either be nuclear power plants everywhere or coal. Pollution won’t end so long as people are around, thinking otherwise is foolish.

  • dreamer

    Why do we call more efficient emission energy sources “green” when they are clearly not? All will have a carbon footprint to some degree. My point simply currently pure “green” energy is a myth we simply don’t have the technology. But and my bugbear is, it doesnt solve our problem of rising greenhouse gas levels in our atmosphere just marginally reduces the rate of increase in the rise of these gases. Mind you I love the technology and we need to evolve our knowledge to get to a point where the reduction is significant. But it will not stop a net gain over time so for me it is more important to learn how to trap emissions and either change their state or store them efficiently and safely. So currently our premise that we have “green” energy is a pretty much a feel good furphy more environmentally friendly yes,exciting absolutely. It is a start and definitely has its place in the future particularly if we can develop the capture of co2 emissions. But not a solution to the problem at this point in time Just buying time maybe. Just my thought.

    • Lindsay Wilson

      While I agree with you in spirit, technically there is a pretty dramatic difference between the three major fossil fuel and any other source of power (renewables, nuclear, hydro . . ). In fact if you were to convert the global power, transport and buildings sectors to low carbon electricity you would more than halve global greenhouse gas emissions bringing them back towards the current absorption rates of the ocean and land sinks. This would stall the rise in radiative forcing, and limit warming to roughly 2C in the long run. So while there is technically no such thing a zero carbon (a phrase I never use), the difference between any fossil fuel and the rest is enormous. Most scenarios show that any chance of attaining 2C would entail both a dramatic shift to low carbon power and some form of sequestration technology (like BECCS)

  • Tom Materman

    It appears that you have overlooked New Zealand as a leader in nenewable energy sources. In 2012 it derived 70% of its energy needs from hydro, geothermal or wind turbines. It should also be afforded dark green status.

  • Isaac

    The title of this article is misleading to the point of being deceiving and ironically it is due to an incorrect analysis of the author’s own data!

    If the thesis is that a Nissan Leaf when charged with solar panels or hydro power is great for the environment that isn’t news to anybody.

    France is super green – BECAUSE THEY ARE 90% NUCLEAR! Electric cars powered by nuclear are great from a carbon and particulate pollution, with the obvious downside of nuclear waste. It is ironic that the “we love electric cars” and the “we hate nuclear power” crowds are almost completely overlapping in the Venn diagram.

    They tried to present electric cars as being equivalent to gasoline cars in the worst case (they have the coal countries in red labeled “average”). According to their own map an electric car in the US is similar to an “efficient” car….less than a “top hybrid”….indicating that if you care about carbon footprint you would buy a “top hybrid” instead of electric – confirming that electric cars are worse than gasoline.

    The further fallacy of all of this is that electric cars on the marker are super-light, super-small tin cans. To compare a tin can to an “average” American car is apples & oranges. If a Nissan Leaf has the same carbon footprint as a Chevy Impala something is terribly wrong. The real question is how efficient would a tin can sized car (like the Nissan Leaf) with a small diesel engine be – if it had a 2 gallon fuel tank (making it carry 500 miles of fuel is unfair when the electric cars don’t)…Or conversely lets look at a Chevy Impala sized electric carrying 500 miles worth of batteries.

    I can’t think of a better comparison than a plug-in hybrid run exclusively 1 way or the other. Then all things are equal – same car, same weight, same aerodynamic profile, etc. We can then compare the fuels directly.

    The next issue not addressed is that these maps highlight the current sources of energy in each country. The real questions is where would countries get additional energy from if their grids were being stressed (by all the charging)…Think of it similar to a marginal tax rate – what is the “marginal energy source”? Canada for example has a huge amount of hydro-electric power so they look very favorable. However it is safe to assume that all the economical hyrdo power has been tapped already so if Canada’s electricity demand doubled what would happen? It is irrational to think that they would simply double their hydro capacity. It is far more rational to think they will either build fossil fuel plants or nuclear to address the additional demand.

  • Hallgeir_Risenfald

    Havent read any of the comment so maybe it’s already there. You have to look at the electricity market on a global scale. If we in Norway use our clean electricity on å electric car we have that less clean electicity to sell to other countrys, so they have to pruduce more dirty electricity. So it does not really matter if you use clean electricity or not.

    • Isaac

      The question is what is the “marginal energy source”. If 1 more kWh of electricity needs to be produced (globally) where will it come from?

      Many low population density countries are very clean because they have a lot of hydro power. If those countries started depending on the electric grid instead of gasoline then more electricity would need to be generated. Are more hyrdo plants going to be built – I think not because all the viable hydroelectric power is currently being utilized for other purposes or to sell abroad.

      Presumably additional power needs to come from fossil fuel or nuclear.

      • anjanson

        Or wind or solar, if they are ”low population density countries”. Yeah maybe more gas or nuclear will need to be used in short term until solar and wind become even cheaper, so? Still we’ll remove exhaust gasses from cities and have relatively clean gas plants

  • Deivis Loren

    I do not agree with you. Electric cars called ‘green” because it do not emit CO2 gas … Your article is invalid.
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  • PuraVida

    go vegan first and then maybe fret about the silly smaller stuff….of course, few have that conviction to really do something individually. Human nature.

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  • Kameko Bruns

    You completely ignored the end of life phase. It’s stone cold fact that the creation process of an electric vehicle (EV) produces a larger carbon footprint when compared to a standard internal combustion engine vehicle (ICEV).

    The next phase is the “Use” phase which started once the vehicle rolls off the dealership floor. Initial data indicates that in the phase the EV beats the ICEV.

    But that’s not the final stage. The final stage is the “End” phase or the “Reclamation” phase and for this there really is no reliable data on the EV. This is where the vehcile is recycled and reused.

    It’s quite likely, however, that much like the creation phase the EV will surpass the ICEV in total carbon footprint which would make you beloved EV, overall, the greater contributor of pollution.

    On a related note, I always find it amusing when folks act arrogantly smug despite lacking a full data set.

  • tumbleweedtom

    If the vehicles were run on water-powered and solar electricity alone, wouldn’t that reduce the emissions to 0 (assuming the vehicle never traveled far enough to activate the gas engine)? Just asking.

  • matt_ecocars

    well as benefiting the environment by reducing CO2 emissions, there are huge
    financial implications and advantages of owning one of these types of cars. The
    latest figures show throughout Europe that the Nissan leaf was the biggest and
    most popular vehicle with around 3300 units sold in March and 5056
    year-to-date. In second place was the
    Tesla model S with 2584 units in March and 3748 units year-to-date. You can
    find a large range os used Model S EV’s for sale at
    . Search and find one in your area, and remember EV’s are viable now, no need
    to wait any longer.

  • Coolstorm

    Your data is based on currently low percentage of electric cars among all cars. However, if most cars went on electricity, the world would need a lot more electricity than it does now. In that case, it will just no longer make enrionmental and economic sense. The world would need to find new sources to generate as much as a few folds more electricity. Households electric bills would also skyrocket. There would be simply not enough clean electricity sources to generate the amount needed. Electric cars if in high volumes are simply unsustainable economically and environmentally.

    • notoptimistic

      Your on the right track. I haven’t finished the analysis but there are 2 issues:
      1. CO2 – if we go all electric and don’t drive much to keep our footprint down (40 km/day) it looks like we have about a 0.7 tonne/year CO2 debt for the car and an additional 0.16 tonnes for the solar panels (8 panels) to charge the car. By 2050 the world needs an average 1.75 tonnes CO2 equiv/person and 0 tonnes by 2070. I’d rather eat than drive.
      2. Energy – I am having a difficult time finding a good number, but it looks like an electric car may take up to 60 GJ to manufacture (dirt to car). If ALL the solar PV installed in the US in 2014 were used for cars, thats about 522,000 cars per year. Add in wind (from 2012) and we get 1,254,000 cars/year. The US in 2011 made about 3,000,000 cars. The world makes about 59,000,000 cars/year. There isn’t enough renewable energy to manufacture cars.

      I am using maximum installation dates for renewables. I think the car manufacturing date is kind of average. Its 3 years after the economic cliff, so that may be low.

      • Coolstorm

        You also have to add the electric power needed to get those cars running. The energy required to produce those cars is one thing, but the energy consumption of the electric cars is an even greater concern if in high volumes. Renewable energy sources won’t generate nearly enough electricity to power hundreds of millions of electric cars. We will at the end of the day rely on traditional sources for electricity generation and what we will see is a sustantial increase in pollution caused by an increase in power plants. Yes, electric cars don’t produce pollution in terms of emissions but they centralize the pollution in the new power plants needed for their electricity demand.

  • Thomas Kyle Moore

    Terrible explanation. Nothing was de-bunked

  • lzskdfh

    We’ve been driving a Nissan Leaf for 7 months now and it’s a great car- super efficient, quiet, quick, comfortable, and very inexpensive (TCO). I calculated the carbon footprint using the USA EPA’s numbers, information from our utility, and our real world efficiency driving the car. Here are the numbers: 1.92 lbs CO2/kWh divided by 4.5 miles/kWh (at wall) equals 0.43 lbs.CO2/mile. Converting this to metric and adding 70g for manufacturing yields 191 gm CO2/km. For comparison, the EPA says the Toyota Prius hybrid produces 9% more carbon emissions than our Leaf for 100% city driving, which is what we use it for.

    The metals (Co, Li, Ni, Fe) in an EV battery are never “burned up” and can be recycled, just like with lead acid batteries. As the grid gets cleaner, all EVs get cleaner. The current electric grid has ample unused capacity at night for charging.

    It’s really pretty simple. An ICE will never match the efficiency, power, and simplicity of an electric motor. Li-Ion batteries get better (more energy dense) and cheaper every year. It will be game over for the ICE soon.

  • matt_ecocars

    Well done, another fantastic article. This battle will continue especially as the big oil companies are spending millions trying to say that EV’s cause more CO2 than ICE vehicles. At the end of the day it will be everyday people who decide, at we are seeing an ever increasing number of eco vehicles coming to the market, as well as a 200% increase in monthly visitors.

  • Sini

    Great article!
    Thank you for putting in the effort.

    I have skimmed the full report but wasn’t able to answer this question. I don’t know how much this affects the calculation but what about disposal or recycling? Aren’t batteries acid and hard to recycle? What about lithium; is that a resource that we have in unlimited quantity on earth? Can it be recycled?

  • Robert Smart

    A bit of electricity is used to refine crude oil:

  • Peter Eisenberger

    The comparision being made is not the correct one for the long term. The comparison should be between synthetic gasoline made from CO2 from the air and hydrogen from water via a variety of processes under development in air capture of CO2 (see and from Algae Biofuels to improved electrolysis.
    In that case the gasoline car has no net emissions from its fuel . If you compare that with solar produced electricity you will be comparing what the end gane will be between. Having said that one thing that is never calculated and is at this crucial time a very important factor is the cost of developing a whole new infrastructure to support electric vehicles not to mention the resilience impact of having so much of energy use from a single type of energ. Synthetic gasoline is drop in technology and also is clean since it is made from water and CO2 and combustion produces water and CO2 .

  • fjordprefect

    WHEW! Luckily in the States our cars run on gasoline, not petrol. That stuff sounds awful!

  • Pasquale Argenio

    Knowledge is power. Thanks for this low-carbon knowledge!

  • Jacob8360r

    Well for electric cars to charge them you need to use the electricity in your house. And electricity is basically petroleum for people and once it’s used it’s gone. Including the more you use electricity you use for your car, the more money you have to pay for bills, which also means that more money is probably spent than made.

  • karlo88

    All those reading and discussing this topic obviously care about our carbon footprint, whether they favor EV or CBE. Regardless of the current capabilities of each, if we all support the use of EV’s, we will each contribute to the development of a path that has legs. There is no way that CBE can compete with the economies of scale of a power plant, where it, and we, through personal choice and political support, can drive the development and implementation of clean energy sources. And, the key to convert your friends and associates that do not care about carbon footprint, or those that no nothing about EV’s, to using an EV? Take them for a test drive in yours, if you have one. The performance and fun-to-drive factor will make them think.

  • Jacob8360r

    what is carbon footprint karlo88

  • Cassidy Orme

    if only this article was true.. the fact is that the process of making electric batteries is still worse than regular batteries.. how many different countries are the batteries alone made in.. mining for the minerals, transporting it, refining the minerals, transporting it, putting the battery together, transporting it again.. you have not done your research moron

  • Phil

    Hi Lindsay,

    Accidentally landed upon ‘Shrink’. Beginning of 2016 I will launch an initiative in which I will bring together like-minded people, probably in the form of an open letter, to be published in a couple of newspapers. I read your “electric car aren’t that green” article. I agree, but we can do so much more. If you reduce the car’s footprint, a lot will fall into place IMO. Tesla, Google and probably Apple are barely scratching the surface…

    Looking forward to hearing from you…
    And Best Wishes for 2016.

  • arikstudy1 Cohen

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  • BetelgeuseOrion

    In 2009 Canadian Oil refineries consumed 6,277,990 MWh of electricity
    With 6,277,990 MWh worth of electricity…
    You can drive a total of 34,877,722,222 km (using 180Wh/km on average)
    1,743,886 Tesla’s can travel 20,000 km (average driving for 1 year)

    if you are concerned about coal plant emissions, STOP DRIVING YOUR GASOLINE CAR

  • Jeremiah Bullfrog

    What a monumental, pandering load of crap.

  • Jesse Foust

    Why did you leave out data from other countries?

  • Miquel

    Hi Lindsay,
    I enjoyed a lot reading your text and the comments!

    I have a small question-comment: wouldn’t it make more sense to compare energy consumed instead of emissions produced? I know power plants are better filtering some emissions than cars –and it is much simpler to capture/use centralized CO2 than catch it form the atmosphere–, but at the end of the day what really matters is how much energy is globally consumed. I mean, of course some countries’ energy release less emissions per energy unit than other’s but, in general, if there is no more renewable energy installed is not because of lack of energy demand. So, the extra energy needed at the electricity grid would mainly be obtained by fossil fuels. Or said in another way, I don’t think the distribution of overall sources of energy will change much due a different way of consuming it; what would make a difference is to lower the total amount of energy consumed. And, what the hell, knowing which type of car consumes less energy would be really informative! If, as it looks like, EV consume less energy and knowing the advantages of centralized energy production… there should not be much more space for arguments about it, right?

    The only piece I see missing is to compare the “afterlife” of the two kinds of cars. The main point here would be the batteries I guess. The rest should have much more to do with the design of each model and the business approach of each company than whether the car is electric or not.

  • BMX racing

    What about agricultural farming?

  • graham

    So I’m an EV driver, and have been since 2007, and I love them. I mean I really enjoy driving EVs: it’s how driving should be!. But I recently had something of a shock: my Citroen C-zero is coming up to 4 years old; the batteries have a 5 year warranty, so I thought I’d find out how much a new set of batteries was going to set me back. I called the local Citroen dealer and they eventually came back with a price: just short of £18,000!! Yes, really!!! That’s for a car which currently retails at around £13,000 here in the UK. So basically I have a disposable car: when the batteries die the car will be heading to the scrap yard. Not good – for my pocket or the environment.

  • Information Voter

    It would be nice to get a number for the CO2e/Km caused by the manufacturing of a normal car and to add for both the electric car and the normal car the total driven Km during the life of the car.

    By the way, the numbers are based on a Nissan Leaf type of car?
    Well, Europe is swamped by those little cars running on petrol. A modern version of such car can get emissions that are just over 100g/Km but this does not include the part caused by manufacturing making it difficult to understand where an electric car can be competitive. But it looks like that only in the green coloured countries this is the case and perhaps even only in the Dark green coloured countries.

  • Anti Lord Kelvin

    English is not my first language (actually is most my third after French and Portuguese both at same level) but I can understand mostly of your arguments and gasdive ones. Both, you are giving very helpful inputs about this problem. But, as for other articles I had read, there is a thing that bothers me about comparing efficiency and emissions of ICE in cars and the same things in plants (mostly coal and gas plants). For example, I was seeing recently an article in a site that I forget the name with some assumptions about these ICE car emissions based mostly in data given by…Volkswagen and Mercedes!
    My question is, if all the calculations of your analyse is made on such type of data, then they can’t be right.
    First, we know now how much accurate the data of car makers are, specially these two ones. Then they test their car’s engine at the right temperature of the engine, at the right engine regime (rotation) to give emission numbers at the best efficient conditions possible. But in real life, we know that’s is not true. Most of the trips are for commuting, so they are so short that the car’s engine never reach the right temperature and the engine regime is always varying a lot. So, we know that emissions are far superior (between twice and tenfold more) and so, the efficiency is far smaller than the official data shows to us.
    In your analysis, did you use official ICE car emission data or manage to use more real life data? (At the contrary, for fossil fuel plants, we know that utilities which use them, make them as efficient as they can to save (earn) as much money as they can. So the official data may be very accurate with the real one)

  • virtualvillian

    Our grid is much cleaner than it was in 2009. Many old coal power plants have been closed and a lot of solar and wind resources have been brought online.

  • MathieuLBouchard

    Canada is an example of a country in which things vary extremely wildly from one region to another. In Québec, electricity uses nearly the lowest possible carbon : only in cases of biomass power plants, remote areas, imports due to unusual demand, for a total of about 2 or 3% of its electricity ; at least 95% hydroelectric. Alberta, however, is clearly coal-based : about 65% coal, at least 95% carbon-based. It’s about as opposite as this can get on Earth. Expect figures in the 1st picture to vary between 70 and 300 (!!!) if they get computed for each of the 13 jurisdictions of Canada.

  • KilonBerlin

    Yea electric car drivers often forget… electricity for the car can come from brown coal for example, but even “Steinkohle” and Anthrazite are not “clean” too… but the amount the Tesla Cars (the only serious producer of E-Cars and I would invest into the company If I would not be stupid and poor^^

    In Decemer 2015 someone did buy/get number 100,000 from the Model S! Think about how much Energy (coal, natural gas, nuclear or hydropower and other renewable…) is needed to “refuel” 100,000 cars with 90 kWh just once…

  • Ken

    These fools think that all they have to do is write something down and people will believe it. Please tell these idiots that that these car batteries use an anode, often made of graphite, the mining and production of which creates enormous damage to our planet, way beyond anything caused by a little CO2 (which they still haven’t figured out is our planets main source of oxygen)!!!

  • Arthur

    Natural gas is our #1 energy source for the next century…or perhaps even for many centuries. Right now, the USA is already #1 in natural gas in the world. We have been blessed with enough methane to last us for many generations….much more than a thousand years.

    Based on existing technology, it is much more efficient to power a car with its own cng engine than it is to power a battery electric car with electricity generated in a ng power plant, and there is no battery waste or environmental damage. We are even introducing LNG trucks which are even more efficient.

    Just because a bunch of socialists invested in Musk does not mean we’re going to listen to their nonsense so that they can make money on the stock. BEVS are the worst vehicles for the environment, PERIOD.

    • anjanson

      Sure, remind me in 2025 how BEVs are dead and worst ever! 😀

  • Severin Haugstad

    Interesting report, but I regret to inform that the data is wrong when it comes to Norway. The official decleration of Norwegian electricity by the Norwegian energy agency is that 54% are based on fossil fuels (coal and gas). The reason behind this is the international energy trade. See table.

  • Ann Al